Comments on: ‘What should I be doing as a new associate?’ https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/02/what-should-i-be-doing-as-a-new-associate/ Legal news, insider insight and careers advice Fri, 23 Feb 2024 09:44:30 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.5 By: Anonymous https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/02/what-should-i-be-doing-as-a-new-associate/#comment-1186636 Fri, 23 Feb 2024 09:44:30 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=201261#comment-1186636 In reply to Jim.

False. Three of my NQ were fired within 6 months for various reasons.

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By: Weiss is the only Paul around here https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/02/what-should-i-be-doing-as-a-new-associate/#comment-1186606 Thu, 22 Feb 2024 21:10:59 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=201261#comment-1186606 In reply to PH NQ.

Paul Hastings, prestigious?

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By: Honest John https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/02/what-should-i-be-doing-as-a-new-associate/#comment-1186579 Thu, 22 Feb 2024 12:53:24 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=201261#comment-1186579 Be 100% honest 100% of the time.

Messing up won’t lose you your qualification.

Lying about it will.

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By: Gotta start somewhere… https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/02/what-should-i-be-doing-as-a-new-associate/#comment-1186578 Thu, 22 Feb 2024 12:51:06 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=201261#comment-1186578 In reply to Jim.

Making tea, lad!

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By: 10 PQE-er https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/02/what-should-i-be-doing-as-a-new-associate/#comment-1186560 Thu, 22 Feb 2024 10:17:49 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=201261#comment-1186560 (i) continue to work hard and show willing – you’re a NQ not a seasoned associate so you’re not expected to know everything but are expected to muck in and get stuff done;

(ii) show an interest in long-term strategy of team / clients – you’re not a trainee who will be off in 6 months, you will now see projects / cases through the cycle;

(iii) ask questions – but learn best person to ask / best time;

(iv) it’s one thing to eff up internally and it happens to us all – but as ever fess up and own the problem, and do your best not to eff up in a way that exposes the partner to the client / embarrasses them.

(v) be a good and pro-active communicator and keep team abreast of smaller parts of the project you’re working on

(vi) as others have said, contribute to BD and developing expertise but you’re hardly expected to be snagging big new clients – as an in-houser my view is the best BD is doing good reliable work for existing clients, that will lead to referrals / recommendations from others they know in the industry. Also build good relationships with your peers as you don’t know where that will lead and where their careers will take them – in my last role in private practice we got a mandate as lenders’ counsel because a friend from a previous role was acting on sponsor side recommended our firm to his client.

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By: PH NQ https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/02/what-should-i-be-doing-as-a-new-associate/#comment-1186524 Wed, 21 Feb 2024 20:50:27 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=201261#comment-1186524 In reply to Kirkland NQ.

Join a prestigious US firm.

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By: C https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/02/what-should-i-be-doing-as-a-new-associate/#comment-1186522 Wed, 21 Feb 2024 19:52:03 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=201261#comment-1186522 Enjoy the new found wealth and try not to get fired loool

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By: Hope this helps, ta https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/02/what-should-i-be-doing-as-a-new-associate/#comment-1186518 Wed, 21 Feb 2024 15:11:51 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=201261#comment-1186518 Generally speaking, your work

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By: 4PQE https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/02/what-should-i-be-doing-as-a-new-associate/#comment-1186515 Wed, 21 Feb 2024 14:19:23 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=201261#comment-1186515 Learn who the a-holes are so you can avoid working with them. Get busy working with those that are respected, not feared, and you’ll set yourself up for a better learning and development experience early on.

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By: Kirkland NQ https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/02/what-should-i-be-doing-as-a-new-associate/#comment-1186513 Wed, 21 Feb 2024 14:04:04 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=201261#comment-1186513 Simple – you should be a Lambo.

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By: Revert https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/02/what-should-i-be-doing-as-a-new-associate/#comment-1186506 Wed, 21 Feb 2024 12:23:02 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=201261#comment-1186506 (In Miranda Priestly’s voice) “Your job”.

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By: Anon https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/02/what-should-i-be-doing-as-a-new-associate/#comment-1186503 Wed, 21 Feb 2024 12:12:20 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=201261#comment-1186503 In reply to Anon.

I’m not suggesting the NQ should be pulling in a £10m book of work, just doing stuff to help.

Helping with research for articles, going for lunch with your junior peers at clients, just getting access to the firm’s prepped LinkedIn materials so you can post whatever marketing dross has been produced that week etc.

Obviously BD shouldn’t be the focus of your work as a NQ but you should still be showing willing.

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By: Anon https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/02/what-should-i-be-doing-as-a-new-associate/#comment-1186495 Wed, 21 Feb 2024 10:31:12 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=201261#comment-1186495 In reply to Anon.

Way too overambitious advice for an NQ! They are basically a 5th seat trainee. If they can run a CP checklist without help people will be content. They are not expected to be winning work or doing BD – that is remit of equity partners. Even senior associates struggle on that front.

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By: Anon https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/02/what-should-i-be-doing-as-a-new-associate/#comment-1186494 Wed, 21 Feb 2024 10:12:38 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=201261#comment-1186494 In reply to Anon.

Must say – suitable advice.

Partners run the business – you are now one of the individuals in the modern ‘sweatshop’ that is a law firm. You’re not employed to be clever, or intuitive, you are employed to bill as many hours as possible for the benefit and profit of the partners.

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By: Anon https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/02/what-should-i-be-doing-as-a-new-associate/#comment-1186493 Wed, 21 Feb 2024 09:31:44 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=201261#comment-1186493 Time recording has just gone from “a very important thing I do at work” to “the defining and all encompassing purpose of my very existence”.

Get. Every. Second. Down.

Also make sure you understand billing. Worth speaking to a friendly finance bod about this, they’re usually happy one of the lawyers asks in a calmer moment when there’s time to explain rather than screaming it down the phone at 4.55 on the last day of the month.

Ask one of the main partners you work with if they can talk you through the BD strategy for the team and how you can help. Different teans have different preferences (some teams like doing mainly webinars, articles etc. whilst some are all about lunch and pub with clients, most fall somewhere in between) and industry focuses.

Alternatively, ignore all the above, enter into a physical relationship with a major rainmaker and enjoy leisurely days of untouchable dossing.

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By: Nigel https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/02/what-should-i-be-doing-as-a-new-associate/#comment-1186492 Wed, 21 Feb 2024 09:16:59 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=201261#comment-1186492 Get billing!

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By: Jim https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/02/what-should-i-be-doing-as-a-new-associate/#comment-1186491 Wed, 21 Feb 2024 09:11:30 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=201261#comment-1186491 NQ is basically the same as equity partner. You can now do whatever you want with zero consequences. Congrats and best of luck!

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