Comments on: CMS and Slaughters latest firms to withdraw TC offers  https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/03/cms-and-slaughters-latest-firms-to-withdraw-tc-offers/ Legal news, insider insight and careers advice Mon, 15 Apr 2024 14:57:16 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.5 By: Current Trainee https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/03/cms-and-slaughters-latest-firms-to-withdraw-tc-offers/#comment-1188874 Mon, 15 Apr 2024 14:57:16 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=202884#comment-1188874 In reply to Future Trainee CMS – Now Thinking of Applying Elsewhere.

CMS also do not have enough NQ positions for trainees (its quite clear they have overhired!) ….and so might be a smart move

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By: anxious applicant https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/03/cms-and-slaughters-latest-firms-to-withdraw-tc-offers/#comment-1188126 Thu, 28 Mar 2024 10:44:25 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=202884#comment-1188126 In reply to Links Trainee.

Do you know what the Links policy is generally? Are they generally understanding or is it very case by case? Have there been any unfair(ish) rescissions after first fail?

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By: Spike https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/03/cms-and-slaughters-latest-firms-to-withdraw-tc-offers/#comment-1188067 Wed, 27 Mar 2024 12:37:09 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=202884#comment-1188067 In reply to Solicitor.

Ignorant comment! – do you even know the procedure for making an interim injunction?

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By: Tom https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/03/cms-and-slaughters-latest-firms-to-withdraw-tc-offers/#comment-1187940 Mon, 25 Mar 2024 12:37:51 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=202884#comment-1187940 In reply to Solicitor.

You deem advising on any matter without ever referring back to legal texts to be the only indicator of competence? If you’ve ever referred back to a legal text in your career before advising on a matter, you cannot claim that the SQE memory test should be a make or break test of competence

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By: annon https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/03/cms-and-slaughters-latest-firms-to-withdraw-tc-offers/#comment-1187936 Mon, 25 Mar 2024 12:05:09 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=202884#comment-1187936 In reply to Annoymous.

If you only want to focus on specialising in one area of law then CILEx is still an option…many discount CILEx but CILEx is still considered a “lawyer”

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By: Anon https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/03/cms-and-slaughters-latest-firms-to-withdraw-tc-offers/#comment-1187935 Mon, 25 Mar 2024 11:57:02 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=202884#comment-1187935 In reply to Lol.

I am not sure if all of them, but can confirm that at least 4 have failed

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By: 10PQE City Managing Associate https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/03/cms-and-slaughters-latest-firms-to-withdraw-tc-offers/#comment-1187931 Mon, 25 Mar 2024 10:45:35 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=202884#comment-1187931 In reply to Crusty.

Agreed

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By: Pedant https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/03/cms-and-slaughters-latest-firms-to-withdraw-tc-offers/#comment-1187930 Mon, 25 Mar 2024 10:19:47 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=202884#comment-1187930 *Eversheds *Suther*who

They didn’t merge with a firm of Mackem.

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By: Idk chief https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/03/cms-and-slaughters-latest-firms-to-withdraw-tc-offers/#comment-1187928 Mon, 25 Mar 2024 09:40:06 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=202884#comment-1187928 In reply to Harvey Spector.

I did the LPC – I don’t think it’s fair to compare it to the SQE and honestly? The LPC wasn’t that hard

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By: US associate https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/03/cms-and-slaughters-latest-firms-to-withdraw-tc-offers/#comment-1187917 Mon, 25 Mar 2024 08:02:03 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=202884#comment-1187917 To be brutally honest the majority of trainees have passed the SQE and so it is perfectly fair to rescind training contracts in accordance with their terms.

It doesn’t matter whether the SQE assessment is based on the practical experience of a NQ. The real question is why did you fail when 90% of your fellow trainees have passed and are now happily trainees at these wonderful firms.

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By: Harvey Spector https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/03/cms-and-slaughters-latest-firms-to-withdraw-tc-offers/#comment-1187907 Sun, 24 Mar 2024 23:11:11 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=202884#comment-1187907 Standard practice. Firms are firing and have been firing lawyers since the downturn of the tech market in early Jan 2023. For people who are supposed to have commercial awareness, it seems only the Partner here does.

Yes I am sure the SQE is difficult but so is most things in life. Including the LPC.

It’s a different puzzle box which is yet to be fully grasped by teachers and students.

Firms are using the failures as an accuse to lower intake whilst also weeding out those who are not the brightest. If you have TCs at top tier law firms, expect nothing less and move forward.

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By: Anonymous https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/03/cms-and-slaughters-latest-firms-to-withdraw-tc-offers/#comment-1187897 Sun, 24 Mar 2024 16:58:09 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=202884#comment-1187897 To the disgruntled associate: What do you mean by studying law properly? The SQE exams tests not only the knowldge of the law but its application to a set of facts. Oxbridge non-law graduates are a very clever bunch, the elite in academia- they can pick up the legal knowledge required to pass SQE exams and also to become Supreme Court Judges! There is no higher value in a law degree than in a Physics or English degree. Non-law graduates are preferred by firms as more intellectual and creative than law graduates. Imagine since age of 18 just memorising cases and black letter law.. The study of law better left for graduate study.. be it PGDL and or SQE.

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By: Links Trainee https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/03/cms-and-slaughters-latest-firms-to-withdraw-tc-offers/#comment-1187884 Sun, 24 Mar 2024 09:31:25 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=202884#comment-1187884 In reply to Former Lawyer.

They only rescinded after they had a resit as far as I’m aware. What would I know though. I’m only in the current cohort.

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By: Annoymous https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/03/cms-and-slaughters-latest-firms-to-withdraw-tc-offers/#comment-1187883 Sun, 24 Mar 2024 09:08:48 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=202884#comment-1187883 I sat SQE1 in January. I passed FLK1 but not FLK2. I passed 8 out of the 14 modules having had 4 months to study after passing my open university law degree. Despite passing more than 50% of the modules I failed. I will not be able to afford 1k to retake so that’s my legal aspirations done. I completed a degree in law whilst working full time in a law firm 40 hours a week. I work in a small legal aid firm dealing with housing claims. Its ludicrous that I am expected to know conveyancing, probate and criminal law when I want to work in my specific area. SQE is to hard it’s not right.

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By: Leopard https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/03/cms-and-slaughters-latest-firms-to-withdraw-tc-offers/#comment-1187879 Sun, 24 Mar 2024 07:02:59 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=202884#comment-1187879 In reply to second year law student.

Wait until you start the job. You’ll then know the true meaning of exhausting.

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By: I have a bridge to sell you https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/03/cms-and-slaughters-latest-firms-to-withdraw-tc-offers/#comment-1187866 Sat, 23 Mar 2024 16:14:46 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=202884#comment-1187866 In reply to Former Lawyer.

Best you look at a capacity check if you believe generic HR jargon

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By: Future Trainee https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/03/cms-and-slaughters-latest-firms-to-withdraw-tc-offers/#comment-1187863 Sat, 23 Mar 2024 14:07:03 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=202884#comment-1187863 In reply to Trainee.

What is ‘the bad stuff’ you are referring to?

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By: Lol https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/03/cms-and-slaughters-latest-firms-to-withdraw-tc-offers/#comment-1187861 Sat, 23 Mar 2024 12:38:28 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=202884#comment-1187861 ]]> Being a lawyer in the UK is so fun guys 🤩

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By: Future Trainee @ CMS https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/03/cms-and-slaughters-latest-firms-to-withdraw-tc-offers/#comment-1187860 Sat, 23 Mar 2024 12:18:09 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=202884#comment-1187860 In reply to Former Lawyer.

What they write and what they do is different. Best to stop polishing your smooth brain.

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By: They haven’t “diligently evaluated anything” https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/03/cms-and-slaughters-latest-firms-to-withdraw-tc-offers/#comment-1187855 Sat, 23 Mar 2024 09:52:01 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=202884#comment-1187855 In reply to Former Lawyer.

I know this, because I know the stories behind some of the trainees that were let go. How are you going to get rid of someone for failing by one mark – and dealing with genuine health issues?

It is a load of crock.

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By: Former Lawyer https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/03/cms-and-slaughters-latest-firms-to-withdraw-tc-offers/#comment-1187850 Sat, 23 Mar 2024 08:26:08 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=202884#comment-1187850 In reply to Links common sense.

And yet Links have also rescinded training contracts for the same reason but seem to be keeping very quiet on this point.

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