Comments on: Slaughters gets tough on desk ditchers with office entry monitoring https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/01/slaughters-gets-tough-on-desk-ditchers-with-office-entry-monitoring/ Legal news, insider insight and careers advice Sun, 11 Feb 2024 17:35:13 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.5 By: BeigeNosersLoveTheOffice https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/01/slaughters-gets-tough-on-desk-ditchers-with-office-entry-monitoring/#comment-1186025 Sun, 11 Feb 2024 17:35:13 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=199960#comment-1186025 In reply to Fritalian.

Yeah – law firm profits nose-dived during Covid when their associates were working from home and associates didn’t have their pick of new opportunities in a red hot remote working job market during Covid…oh wait

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By: Alan’s Mentor https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/01/slaughters-gets-tough-on-desk-ditchers-with-office-entry-monitoring/#comment-1185836 Fri, 09 Feb 2024 04:28:36 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=199960#comment-1185836 In reply to One More.

Lol Rent Free

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By: Alan’s Mentor https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/01/slaughters-gets-tough-on-desk-ditchers-with-office-entry-monitoring/#comment-1185835 Fri, 09 Feb 2024 04:27:57 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=199960#comment-1185835 In reply to Here You Go.

Knew I’d get a bite from you Alan

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By: Fritalian https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/01/slaughters-gets-tough-on-desk-ditchers-with-office-entry-monitoring/#comment-1185285 Tue, 30 Jan 2024 21:34:39 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=199960#comment-1185285 I’m amazed at how many people still believe that “so long as you get your hours done, it doesn’t matter where you work”. This completely overlooks a crucial activity that everyone should be doing, which is developing the firm’s talent by collaborating, supporting and training colleagues – an essential requirement for a high quality department. This simply cannot happen as effectively remotely.

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By: One More https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/01/slaughters-gets-tough-on-desk-ditchers-with-office-entry-monitoring/#comment-1185255 Tue, 30 Jan 2024 12:56:04 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=199960#comment-1185255 In reply to Alan’s Mentor.

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4466130

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By: Here You Go https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/01/slaughters-gets-tough-on-desk-ditchers-with-office-entry-monitoring/#comment-1185254 Tue, 30 Jan 2024 12:49:49 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=199960#comment-1185254 In reply to Alan’s Mentor.

https://www.nber.org/papers/w31515

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By: OUTOFTOUCH@CC https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/01/slaughters-gets-tough-on-desk-ditchers-with-office-entry-monitoring/#comment-1185080 Fri, 26 Jan 2024 15:11:22 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=199960#comment-1185080 In reply to Anon.

CC have just introduced the same monitoring policy this week in the UK

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By: JP https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/01/slaughters-gets-tough-on-desk-ditchers-with-office-entry-monitoring/#comment-1184943 Wed, 24 Jan 2024 15:43:23 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=199960#comment-1184943 In reply to Alan.

Then you should be dealing with “said associate’s” performance issues one on one, rather than applying a blanket policy to the whole office. Either the expectations aren’t clear to that person, or you’re consistently letting them get away with that behavior.

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By: not a boomer https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/01/slaughters-gets-tough-on-desk-ditchers-with-office-entry-monitoring/#comment-1184942 Wed, 24 Jan 2024 14:14:32 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=199960#comment-1184942 In reply to Alan.

OK, Boomer!

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By: Alan’s Mentor https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/01/slaughters-gets-tough-on-desk-ditchers-with-office-entry-monitoring/#comment-1184744 Sat, 20 Jan 2024 15:32:53 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=199960#comment-1184744 Please post on here any study which says that lawyers working from home are less productive than working from the office. I’ll wait.

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By: Alan’s Mentor https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/01/slaughters-gets-tough-on-desk-ditchers-with-office-entry-monitoring/#comment-1184743 Sat, 20 Jan 2024 15:29:02 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=199960#comment-1184743 In reply to Alan.

Alan is too junior to instruct a bazza. How’s that second rotation going mate?

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By: Amateur DPO https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/01/slaughters-gets-tough-on-desk-ditchers-with-office-entry-monitoring/#comment-1184634 Thu, 18 Jan 2024 22:15:37 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=199960#comment-1184634 ICO guidance states: “We are urging all organisations to consider both their legal obligations and their workers’ rights before any monitoring is implemented. While data protection law does not prevent monitoring, our guidance is clear that it must be necessary, proportionate and respect the rights of workers…”

In terms of Slaughter’s – necessary? Surely not. Proportionate – if it’s a “very small minority” then what about all the 100s of others who are having their personal data processed for no real reason.

I’m pretty sure Slaughter’s are relying on the fact that it’s career suicide to challenge your firm on stuff like this…

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By: anon https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/01/slaughters-gets-tough-on-desk-ditchers-with-office-entry-monitoring/#comment-1184620 Thu, 18 Jan 2024 14:45:14 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=199960#comment-1184620 In reply to Anon.

I presume it has something to do with commuting time and other minutiae…

But, the likelihood is that S&M’s associates live in/near the City so asking for them to go to work for 3 days a week surely isn’t a big ask with NQ rates higher than some partners earn in the mid-town firms.

For juniors/associates, a good boss will let you WFH when you need to, yes.

However, is a good boss someone who lets juniors work remotely, regularly? I’ve heard a lot about this happening and then they aren’t in the office when the junior does turn up. No, that is not okay.

I think a lot of it is fuelled by lazy seniors who also want the flexibility, and still expect to grow a competent and profitable team around them…..

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By: lol https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/01/slaughters-gets-tough-on-desk-ditchers-with-office-entry-monitoring/#comment-1184537 Tue, 16 Jan 2024 17:02:57 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=199960#comment-1184537 In reply to Alan.

Such an Alan

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By: Anon https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/01/slaughters-gets-tough-on-desk-ditchers-with-office-entry-monitoring/#comment-1184523 Tue, 16 Jan 2024 14:06:03 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=199960#comment-1184523 In reply to City associate.

If you are actually working from home, what has it to do with work life balance?

My own personal lockdown experience was that I found it unpleasant to work really hard from home as I started associating my home with the high pressure, even when I wasn’t working. I’d prefer to leave that world at the door.

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By: Alan https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/01/slaughters-gets-tough-on-desk-ditchers-with-office-entry-monitoring/#comment-1184516 Tue, 16 Jan 2024 10:51:45 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=199960#comment-1184516 In reply to Partner.

Finally a voice of reason. Please wait for the trolls to come out of the woodwork demanding you apologise for their hurt feelings.

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By: City associate https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/01/slaughters-gets-tough-on-desk-ditchers-with-office-entry-monitoring/#comment-1184515 Tue, 16 Jan 2024 10:32:41 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=199960#comment-1184515 The office is a complete distraction! If I need to get work done and hit deadlines I’m way more
productive at home. The work quality speaks for itself.

Ridiculous and depressing that the world made strides forward in terms of work life balance during the pandemic and is now actively regressing.

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By: Name https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/01/slaughters-gets-tough-on-desk-ditchers-with-office-entry-monitoring/#comment-1184514 Tue, 16 Jan 2024 10:02:02 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=199960#comment-1184514 In reply to Alan.

While there’s no billable hours target at SM, the firm still does time recording. How exactly is it possible to watch Netflix all day and get away with it?

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By: s&m https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/01/slaughters-gets-tough-on-desk-ditchers-with-office-entry-monitoring/#comment-1184490 Mon, 15 Jan 2024 23:08:27 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=199960#comment-1184490 In reply to Anonymous.

Yes, absolutely, and they know this of course. The days of the working practices code and putting the job redesign programme up in lights seem long gone. We’ve pivoted from retention mode into attrition mode.

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By: Dave https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/01/slaughters-gets-tough-on-desk-ditchers-with-office-entry-monitoring/#comment-1184489 Mon, 15 Jan 2024 22:51:18 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=199960#comment-1184489 Good for them. The office is coming back and the slackers will get found out.

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By: Partner https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/01/slaughters-gets-tough-on-desk-ditchers-with-office-entry-monitoring/#comment-1184487 Mon, 15 Jan 2024 22:04:08 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=199960#comment-1184487 I think work can be done from anywhere, but my experience is that 4 out 5 associates simply do not work very hard from home. They don’t pick up the phone, do whatever they do that’s not work, and double their recorded hours. Then they come back to the office the next day and do the work. Sure, we could police it, but for some reasons I don’t understand it’s frowned upon to tell associates to stop taking the mickey and do some actual work. Law firms simply punish those – of any level – who make waves. It’s also frowned upon to write off hours.

All that to say I’m not surprised S&M is going that route – associates did that to themselves.

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